The 'What's Next?' Retirement Podcast

The best investment I've ever made!

May 26, 2023 Craig Wear

In this podcast, financial coach Craig Wear and fitness expert Chuck Kastor discuss their program on helping people achieve their fitness and financial goals. They discuss how people tend to yo-yo in their fitness progress and how their program can help them become more resilient and successful. They also emphasize the importance of accountability and taking action towards one's goals. They encourage listeners to check out their website to learn more about their program and how it can help them achieve their goals.

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Well, hey gang, it's Craig Weir. Welcome back to the podcast. Glad You're Back for what is gonna be an incredible episode. It's gonna be way outta left field for you, but we're gonna have fun. You're gonna get to meet some really cool guys and, uh, we're gonna talk about some serious stuff here. I mean, it's gonna get real really fast. So hang on. Uh, but I hope if you're, if you'll just hang on for the next, however long this podcast is gonna be, I think you're gonna have an opportunity to have a huge impact in some areas of your life that you maybe don't expect a financial guy to talk to you about. Look, financial success is hard. I mean, let's just face it. You work, you earn, you save, you win, you lose, and you learn. And if you're a winner, you persevere. But it can be complicated, especially if you wanna keep up with everything that you think you need to, right? Failure is also hard, guys. Man, if dealing with financial setback is tough. I've been there not just three or four years ago, man, I, I, I thought I'd retired. I sold a business and started a new company and thought I, you know, was gonna be able to add incredible value to an industry and man. It, it's, it stunk. I mean, I, I don't mind telling you two and a half million dollars went down the toilet really quick and it hurt, you know? So dealing with financial setback is also tough. You got the emotion of it, you got the anxiety, you got depression, you got embarrassment. You got the stock market in your portfolio maybe is up and down. Maybe you got a financial advisor or somebody who, who absconded with money. I mean, you know, crap happens. Failing is tough, but somehow you find a way to come back, right? You fight your way back to where you wanna be. So to succeed though, You gotta invest time and money, and maybe it's education you need or professional you gotta hire to maybe help fill the gaps of what you maybe don't know or know how to do. Sometimes that investment is education. Sometimes it's a commission you have to pay. Sometimes it's a recurring fee for a service or like our service in what we do with Roth conversion work. It's just a flat fee to get a project done, but if you invest those resources to help you succeed and you do it wisely, Then, you know, you, if you're listening to this podcast, you have a certain age that you've been around long enough that you know that in time those things pay off, but you had to invest the time. You had to trust in what you were doing, and you had to have the resources available to you to be able to succeed. Hopefully, you live long enough and the healthy enough life to enjoy the fruits of a lifetime of labor. A lifetime of struggle of successes and failures. So look, today, I'm gonna share with you one of the best investments I've ever made. I've been a financial advisor for 20, 38 years. I've seen a lot of stuff. I've put money places that's done well. I've put places that's done really bad, like some of you guys. But look, what I've done and what I'm gonna introduce you to today. I've, I've al, I've already. Gotten a huge payoff in big ways, and it promises to give me dividends for years and years and years and years. So last October, I realized that I developed some really bad habits. I, I didn't realize it, but man, at the time, I was outta control. I wasn't sleeping well. I felt like I needed a nap every afternoon. It was like three o'clock. I was like, oh my gosh, I just need to close my eyes for 15 minutes. Can anybody out there relate? I, I love to go on a run a few times a week, but those runs were becoming more frustrating than they were enjoyable. My weight was almost as high as it had ever been. It'd been higher, and then down, and then up again, and then down, and then back up. I was at 205 pounds. I'm six feet tall. Uh, my clothes were tight again, I'd thrown away all the 32 inch size pants because that was like never gonna happen again, right? And I really didn't like what I saw in the mirror when I got outta the shower in the morning. The crazy part is I got family health history, uh, in tremendous heart problems. My grandfather on my mother's side died at 50 years old of a massive heart attack. My dad is one of four brothers. All three of them had died because of heart problems. My own dad had a quadruple, he had a pacemaker and he had, and he'd lived a life of obesity. My mother is overweight diabetes 19, back surgeries over her lifetime. I had no business being overweight and being unhealthy. Poor health is a really difficult thing to live with. It's hard. Many of you deal with a lot more serious problems than what I'm talking about. My little minor health inconveniences maybe look like a cakewalk cakewalk compared to what you're living with. But enjoying a good health is also hard, and I know what that's like, too hard. Choices of foods, what drinks, exercise is certainly not convenient until, until you're reach a point that you're sick and tired. Being sick and tired last November, that's where I came to. I saw an ad on Facebook. I clicked it like many of you did on my ads when we first got to know each other, and it resulted in me meeting two men that have helped me totally change my life in the direction of my health. Turned out to be the absolute best investment I've ever made, so I'd like to welcome both of them to this episode. And I hope, and I pray that you'll listen to our stories, but I want you to listen with you at the center of it because you can do the exact same thing. So first I got Chuck Castor. He goes by Chuck, his mama called him Charles, um, he's of charles castor fitness.com. Um, Chuck, welcome to the program. Thank you so much for joining in. Thanks, Greg. Appreciate good to be here. And I got, I got Matt Hammond. Matt Hammond is a fitness coach, life coach, and I'm proud to say with a tear in my eye, my coach, he's the guy that I got to have accountability with and we talked with a ton. So Matt, thank you from my heart for what you've done to help and for being part of the program today. Thank you very much, Greg. I appreciate it. All right, so. Um, I got friends of mine, Chuck. They're asking me, okay, so what's this diet you're on, right? And I'm like saying, no, I'm not really on a diet. Matt told me to eat whatever I want to eat, enjoy myself. So what's that all about, Chuck? Well, everybody seems to come into this, uh, whole thought process of wanting to get. Back in shape if it's even possible. Cuz most people don't think it's possible. They really don't. I mean, I'm 62, Matt's 64, uh, you know, we're, we're all in that category. You're 63 when I first met you, I'm not sure where you're at. I'm still there. I'm not as old as Matt. We're all in that same category. So we all have these preconceived thoughts of what we think fitness is or what it's gonna require to go from point A to point B to Z and it's all wrong. And so, What you just mentioned, when you can eat whatever you want, you hear these kind of things and people are like, get outta here. They're trying to sell you something, you know? And really to tell you the truth, people don't understand the seriousness of what we're talking about because most people do an event to hit a goal. We don't want events. There's more events around what we do here. We want a lifestyle change that's very reasonable, something that people can do at the age bracket. I, we have 85 year old clients. We're young bucks compared to those guys. Those guys have two decades on us, and they, and they come in and they do well in the program. So I think the whole premise is that there's not many people that really have real accurate understanding about how their body functions. We very strongly, I got no problem telling you, we, we do it based on scripture. What, how did God design these amazing vessels? What did he do when he created these vessels? And I don't know that many people look at it from that standpoint. We truly do. And, and he designed a vessel that's resilient. That's amazing, that will heal itself. That it is something that can be corrected and it's not as hard as what people think it is, because whenever we say yes to him, usually there's a lot of fringe benefits that come with it. And so that's a little bit of a difference of kind of where we're coming from, um, in this program. And, uh, yeah. So Matt, you've been a part of the fitness industry for a long time. You were competitive power lifter as I remember. Um, you, you told me a story once about kind of your first experience with Chuck and him giving you all this voodoo, you know, that you just knew wouldn't work, share with people kind of. Where you were at that time and kind of what's happened with you and I, I don't have it on me, but if, you know, um, this may be a little embarrassing for both of us, but you know, I, I send my kids, my son's 28 and 31 years old. The 31 years old is in great shape. The 28 year old needs some improvement, but I send them pictures and I'm like, Uh, uh, you know the pictures that you do in your advertising where you got your shirt off and you're, you know, he, the dude's got an eight pack. I mean, his arms are huge and everything. I, I send these pictures, my sit my kids, I'm like, boys, I'm gonna go on a date with this guy, AJ looks too good, man. So what do you, what do you, what, tell me about that first experience with, with Chuck and kind of what's your thought process? So as compared to everything you had heard your whole career before then. You know, Craig, it's, it's, it's really interesting because when you first got this thing started, you talked about being sick and tired of being sick and tired. And that's where I was at. I was literally, I was sick and tired of being sick and tired. Uh, my oldest daughter, uh, who introduced me to Chuck. Came up to me at a family event. Uh, it was actually my birthday, and we were having all the kids and the grandkids there, and she came up and she sat down beside me and she said, dad, you're getting fat. She was right. I was, and I kept recycling this same 15, 20 pounds that I just couldn't seem to do anything about it. My health was deteriorating. They wanted to put me on statins. They were concerned about my blood pressure and they re, they'd already scheduled me to test me for type two diabetes. And then Amy reached out to him and she said, dad, I want you to call this guy. And I said, well, who is he? What is he doing? And she told me, and I remember very specifically saying, sweetheart, I've been doing this for 40 years. I don't need somebody to tell me how to do this. I know what to do. All I gotta do. Right is to have the right discipline and, and the right fortitude to do what I know I need to do. And she said, dad, just call him, okay. You know, your kids ask you to do something. Okay, fine. I'll call him. When Chuck and I got together and we kind of began to run through, started asking me questions and, and, and, and, and Craig, it didn't bother me that I didn't know the answers to the questions he was asking me because if there's one thing I've learned at my age right now, there's a lot of things I don't know. But what really struck me was I had never even heard the questions before, and I've coached a ton of people through workouts and fitness and doing everything else, and he turned everything that I'd ever learned 180 degrees upside down. And so when he asked me, he says, Matt, are you willing to be teachable and readable and coachable? I found myself saying yes as much as I did not want to. I did not wanna spend the money, I did not wanna spend the time, and I really didn't wanna listen to this guy that's been seven years ago, and I've maintained my weight within two to three pounds of what my low was when I got done with the program. And you lost, was it a hundred pounds? Was it like a hundred pounds? You lost? Actually from my high of, uh, 3 0 4, 3 0 5 down to one 90. Wow. And, uh, I'm here to tell you right now, Craig, and I mean this, and I know you know that. I mean this, had I not made that dece, I wouldn't be here today. Yeah. I got 10 beautiful grandkids. Well, nine one on the way. I wouldn't, I, I wouldn't see him. I wouldn't be here. Yeah. Uh, I wouldn't be with my absolutely my best friend who is my wife who's sitting right there. I, I absolutely would not be here. And, uh, isn't it funny how we get in our own head and we tell ourselves these stories and sometimes it takes somebody else kind of straightens out. So, yeah, for sure. And, you know, just to finish up on my story and then Chuck Will, I'd like to hit you up. Up on something. You know, I, when I, the, the week, a couple weeks before I met Chuck, I hopped on the scale and I was at 2 0 5. Um, that's not huge, but that's, that was, that was enough for me. I was pushing a, I was a 36 inch waist headed toward really quickly to a 38 inch waist. Um, And in the six months that I worked with Matt, that I just kind of graduated from that, um, I was 1 65. My body fat was 20% of my entire weight when I met Chuck and Matt. And I'm here to tell you that I'm barely under 14% today and we're headed even lower, right? My energy is up. I'm stronger. I don't need naps anymore. I eat whatever the heck I want to eat. I just don't eat as much as what I used to eat, and I eat more of the right kinds of things and I'm, and I've never been on a diet. And I wish I hadn't thrown away all those size 32 inch pants cuz man, I'm back in a 32 inch pant, right? So I'm re readdressing the wardrobe, right? But I still have more that I wanna do and you know, I still want to keep working with Matt to get some of those things accomplished. But, you know, so, Chuck, I, I would only imagine that a lot of the people that are listening in have done the yo-yo thing like, You know, like Matt said, he did. And like you exposed to me that I did, and you're, I mean, you're, you're pretty right in the middle when, when, in these initial conversations with potential clients. I mean, you don't fool around with this stuff, but, you know, so why do people, yo-yo, why do I, why have I lost 40 pounds before and gain it back and lose 20 and gain it back plus some, and then lose it again? And, um, why, why do people do that? What causes that? That's a great question and uh, I would think it's misinformation and the fitness industry, which we're part of. So I admit we're in the fitness industry, but the fitness industry is not always, if ever correct about what they're selling to you. And we're all selling something. I mean, there's nothing hidden about that, you know, but when you're selling a very specific way to get to a very specific coal, It can make maybe taint your viewpoint about being straightforward with people. And I think most people don't truly understand the nature of how God designed our bodies. And to be honest with you, everybody in our program's doing something a little bit different because what you find restrictive, maybe I don't. And what I find restrictive, maybe you don't. So how can the whole world do the same program? That's the first problem. And then there's the science behind it. People do not understand. It's truly the science of how their bodies, why they're carrying fat and why they're not carrying fat. And um, and we educate our clients on that. And if you'd like me to give a little brief rundown for your clients, cuz I, I believe in giving value to people. Yeah. I think people should walk like, okay. That was, that was not just something, you know, I learned something and I, I always try to leave people a little bit better than I found them. And, and I think there's four, there's four areas that God designed our bodies to operate under, which is something that is, um, Mo Most people don't understand it. They just don't. And it's the key and it's the foundation of what we do, uh, in this program. And. And, and in a very, very brief sense, there's four buckets. There's your basal metabolic rate. People don't understand what that is in a real simple way. That is you sitting in a lawn chair for 24 hours and how many calories do you burn sitting in the lawn chair for 24 hours? All right. Currently, most people are the Tesla. They're running like a very efficient vehicle. All right? And everybody thinks efficiency's good, not in this case, not in your body. You wanna be a really bad gas mileage car sitting in the launch here. So we help people to convert from being a Tesla to a Ferrari. So as you're sitting on this podcast, you are definitely burning calories differently than you were six months ago, Craig, and that's a key for sure. And key indicator. And that bmi, that ba metabolic rate, about 60% of the equation. It's a big equation. All right. Second bucket that God designed our bodies to operate under is something that's called Meeks, N e a t, non-Exercise Activity Thermogenesis, real fancy name for my random movements in a 24 hour period. I'm talking to you. I'm moving. Scratching my head. I go shopping the Costco with my wife. I park the car, I walk in and I walk around Costco. These are all things we do over the course of the 24 hour period. It's a massive, massive, massive, massive number. And most people don't realize that their bodies don't like them being in a calor deficit, and they don't. Your body does not like it when you start losing weight, so people don't understand. God designed our bodies to actually preserve life. And all the good things that were happening to you in the, in the, when you came in this program, Craig, your body was sitting, sitting there going, no, no, no, no, no, no, we're not. We do not want Craig doing this. Something's wrong with Craig. Your body's thinking with a caloric deficit, slight that you don't even notice, and with you starting to lose weight, your body gets triggered and your body goes into mode where it starts metabolically reducing your metabolism to save energy. Just in case next week, you're still stuck in the desert. This is what your body, when people plateau, which everybody does, they don't understand that their body's working against them. We don't let that happen in this program. We teach on it and we make sure that you're gonna lose 1.5 to two pounds a week, week in, week out. Third thing, j l, physical activity level, what does the fitness industry sell? Bucket number three, P a l, which is the gym, the kettle bells, the swimming, the cycling, the Pilate yoga, all the stuff that we buy. And this is a problem because there is a us. This is not a fast stripping place to be. We are all in a fast strip phase when we're trying to get our body fat down. All right. And most people are in the gym, will call it the gym for the wrong reasons. They're there to strip fat. Really? What is the gym for your insulin sensitivity? It'll help your metabolism. It can help strengthen flexibility, which are key things when you got some 60 year old dude sitting here. We need to be doing that, but we're not stripping fat, the gym and the fitness industry, selling it as a solution to strip fat. And the fourth bucket's, thermic effective food. Not gonna get into it deep. But it's the macronutrients. Everybody's trying to sell people macronutrients, protein, carbs, fats, and it's the keto diet, the carnivore diet, the paleo diet, the Atkins diet. All these diets fall, which is what the big push is to sell somebody. And it is not where the magic happens. The magic happens where you lose 1.5 to two pounds a week and you don't even notice it. You're almost like wondering, should I spend the money on that program? This is easier than I thought it would be. Rather than, oh yeah, I never have carbs, or I can never have a piece of pizza, or I can never have a hamburger bun on my hamburger. It's like, come on. Or I can never have a drink again. I mean, that's not a teetotaler. I'm not a teetotaler. And so all of these lifestyle things are things that we need to have included as we drop 1.5 to two pounds. And if you can include these things, Then when you hit your goal, it's gonna be a lot easier to maintain it cuz we did not disrupt your lifestyle massively. And that's the key. It's not an event like I said. And so to me, I think that's value. Most people don't know what I just said there and I'm talking, I have certified nutritionist with master's degrees in this program. They don't know that I got doctors, physicians, they don't know that I have got professional athletes. We have, I mean, and nobody knows this science, so therefore there's a lot of misinformation out there. And people are selling bucket three and bucket four is a solution. Why? Yeah, because there's a temporary, that's where the money's at. Well, there's a temporary result. There's a temporary result somebody gets, and then they lose the result cuz it wasn't the right place to focus. And then they come back to the fitness industry and they pay'em again. And it's called the residual money. It's the prescription drug that that's symptomatic. And we're not about symptom, we are about eradicating the problem and the bigger mission. Is to help people become fitness patriarchs for their family. And with your crew here, that all is listening to you. They understand the financial patriarch end, which we all get. But I was a lousy fitness patriarch in my forties. I was fat for 13 years living in bucket three and four and, and having short-term results and wondering what's wrong with me? What's wrong with me? And so this is, I think there's a methodology to the way the fitness industry deals with things. And this is the key essence. So what I just conveyed there, very valuable information. Yeah. And I like to let people know that. Cause people don't know that. Yeah. Well, you went through those first four things with me on our first call, and I actually wrote those down. I, and it was only just a week ago that I threw those notes away because I kept going back to'em over and over and over. And finally it was like, okay, I got this. I don't, I don't need to keep these anymore. I've lived it. Right. But you know, Um, Chuck, you and I share a love of sweets, right? And, you know, hearing your story and you talking about, you know, you love a great cupcake or cookie or whatever it is that you do, man, I, I do too. And you know, one of the things that Matt had me doing was taking pictures of everything that was going in my mouth, which is an incredible accountability measure, right? And there were, unless I forgot, I didn't cheat. There were times I forgot to take a picture, I'd get three like, oh crap, I forgot to take a picture. But I mean, Matt, I mean, think about how many bowls of ice cream did I send you and how many blueberry cookies did I send you pictures of? Right? And all I got back from Matt was way to go, man, you did the work. Enjoy it. Right? So, Matt, what's, you know how many people who start the program finish it? Well, um, of a hundred people that'll start. This program that Chuck's developed and you help implement you work with, um, what kind of success rate do you have? How often do we actually finish and do what we said we were gonna do? You know, Craig, that's a great question. And I would have to say out of a hundred people, 99, I mean literally, I, I believe it. I don't see many people, uh, not. They, they, they, you know, there may be the first couple, three or four weeks they're like, yeah, I don't know. I don't know about this. Then they start having success and then what Chuck just got through saying is massively important. Wow, this is not as hard as I thought it was gonna be. This is, I don't even realize these guys are in my life and I'm just making, you know, successive pro I, I'll give you a good example. I was tainted because of what I did in the past of what my history was and what my life was. Uh, and, and Chuck is telling me to do these things. And I remember telling Chuck, I said, Chuck, I believe that's the biggest bunch of BS I've ever heard in my life. And, and he told me, he said, Matt, I get it. I, I totally get it. You don't have a reference point to take this information from. Now I'm four and a half months into the program. I'm a gym rat. Always have been, always will be. But I came home from the gym. I'm getting undressed. I'm, I'm in the bedroom getting ready to get in the shower, and Debbie walks in and she looks at me and she says, dude, you got abs. I said, I haven't seen him since I was a junior in high school. Now at this point, I'm telling you, Craig, and I don't mean to be crude, but if Chuck told me to eat dog poop, I'd eat dog poop. I'm gonna do whatever it's he's telling me to do. Cause it works. And that's the crazy thing. And you talking about the blueberries and, and, and, and the cupcake or the bowl of ice cream. We have to be able to enjoy life. We have to. Yeah. You know, Chuck talks about we're not perfect every Wednesday night. I have a medium pepperoni pizza every Wednesday night. I love pizza. I'm a pizza connoisseur. Right? Yeah. But I still maintain that weight. How? Because I know how my body works. Yeah. Well I met you right before Thanksgiving, right? And, um, you gave me some tips on how to deal with Thanksgiving and Christmas with absolutely no guilt. And man, I walked to the cookie bar at Christmas, you know, like, like a kid with his eyes as big as saucer, ready to indulge. And I did. But because you prepared me for it and you know, The, to me, one of the greatest parts of what you guys have, what you guys teach and what you live is kind of like, um, kind of like in my own spiritual life, I grew up in a denomination that could be fairly legalistic in the way they view our relationship with God and the things that we're supposed to do and not do. Um, and I think a lot of people view dieting that way. It's. It's like, oh crap, why would I ever want to go on a diet and suffer through that pain? But you, you make it so easy, you make it a, literally, it's a lifestyle change that you allow yourself to indulge and to enjoy and to just, uh, be a part of the things that are important to you. But, but within healthy parameters. Instead of the parameters that cause you to gain the weight or to have the heart problems, or to have the health problems or to be on 27 different medications. I walk around now and I look at, I look in the different public places that I go and it is, I'll use the word sickening, how obese America is and it's, and, and. And how many drugs are being used as the answer to the problems when really, I mean, you know, Matt, you were, you were either on or about to be on statins. They were about to do all these other things. How's your health now in all that way? Are you in, are you taking 27 medications and seeing the doctor every three months because they're monitoring you real closely? No. Chuck. Chuck, do I do I do I Go ahead and say it. Of course. So I do a scan about once a year, and the scan gives you your, you know, we always have a birthday. Everybody has a birthday, right? The day we were born on. And so we have a chronological age, but we also all have a metabolic age, the age of my body, my internal organs, the way I move, you know, everything within my body. And, uh, when I started on this, uh, you know, my metabolic age was about the same as my birth name. My last scan that I had done six months ago, and this is gonna be hard for people to believe, but I swear it is correct. My metabolic age has gone from 64 to 12. I always ask him if that's the mental age or is this metabolic? Well, we know the answer to that, Chuck. We already know the answer to that. But the, but my, my point is that, that what Chuck is talking about, and this, this biblical principle, our bodies are designed to last a very, very long time. The problem is, is we treat our bodies very, very badly. Yeah. And we're not talking about perfection. We're not talking about being perfect cuz we can't be perfect. We're not machines. But can I improve my body and my metabolic age to live a very, very long time? Yes we can. Crazy part is it, it's your call, it's your choice, right? We get to make a decision. I'm so glad I did. I'm just, yeah. I dunno. A better way to put it. Yeah. Well, um, I ask you guys to be on this podcast because I'm grateful that you share your talents and your skills with people like me, because I'm really glad that I clicked on this stupid Facebook ad that had some old dude with rock solid abs and huge arms and shoulders on it that I just, you know, it was like, There's two guys I would actually date in life. One's Tom Sek and the other is Matt Hammond. You know, I maybe, I maybe would not seriously. Um, but anyway, all I can do is say, you know, thank you guys for the role that you played in my life. And Matt especially, you know, cuz you and I have been kind of connected at the hip. Um, but had it not been for Chuck getting out and taking the risk as an entrepreneur and. You know, be being the town crier, telling the story over and over for people to listen. Um, both of us, you know, wouldn't have enjoyed the life that we're doing. Now, all I can say to you if you're listening to the podcast is there's really nothing special about Matt or Craig. There's probably more special about Matt than there is about Craig. And the more you get to know me and listen to these podcasts, you realize that I'm not the sharpest tack in the box in every area. There's a couple things I really do well. And we help our clients. And, um, there are things in my personal life and with my family, I do really, really well. Um, other things you don't, you don't need to listen to me about. Uh, there's things that Chuck does really well and there's stuff that Matt does really well. And so if you're at a place in your life where you're kind of sick and tired of being sick and tired, if you're on more medications than what you wish that you were on, or if you see that you're headed down the type two diabetes route, um, You know, I had a very stark awakening in my life. My dad passed a year and a half ago from complications that come from just dementia that he had. And, you know, dementia, Alzheimer is sometimes referred to as the type three diabetes type of thing, you know, and he was obese his whole life. Um, enjoyed life, enjoyed eating. Uh, he'd eat a dozen hot dogs at a time. Um, he'd eat a 20 inch steak and follow it up with a hamburger a few hours later and just all the garbage and stuff. And, you know, at the end of his life, he paid a price and it was hard. It was hard for his whole family. It was hard for us to watch him disappear in the way that he did. And we watched his brothers do the same thing. So that's hard. Um, this, what I did with you guys is that. Is a piece of cake, no pun intended. It, it, it is, there's nothing to it. But if you're listening to this and it's time for you to make a quality decision, I got nothing to gain on this other than to know that maybe I helped another human being take control of their life and to get something better for them as well. I want you to live a long time. You got the money, you got the resources. Or you wouldn't be listening to the podcast. Now, our goal, the three of us, we want you to live, live, live, be really healthy, and then die. Instead of decay. Decay, go in the hospital, hit a nursing home, have assisted living, go into hospice, and cuz that's hard too. So Chuck, um, Matt, thank you guys for being willing to take this little bit of time and just kinda share your story. I'd like people to be able to connect with you, Chuck. You know, it all starts with, you know, um, they gotta, they gotta take the first step and then, you know, Chuck will connect you with Matt or somebody like that on, on his team. So, Chuck, tell'em how they can get ahold of you, man. Tell'em what do they do to, to get ahold of you and we'll put whatever links down in the show notes on this also. Okay. And you made a comment that you have a sweet tooth. For my 21st birthday, I got 21 boxes of Hohos. The old good count, the, the word foil, not the white rappers. I ate'em all. That's, that's the extent of my, and I, I still continues to this day having an issue with sweet tooth. So just to let you know, and you know what, Chuck didn't develop anything. This is all God based principles that people just don't. No even exists and it's sad. Mm-hmm. And the whole world thinks that I know what to do. I just need to do it. I need to have more discipline. I need to have more accountability like you referenced. And it's the saddest statement that's a lie. Because in fact, I would challenge you that you don't know what to do. And it's okay. I have five coaches in five areas. I still don't know the right questions to ask. I'm not an expert in every area. There's things I don't know about. But you know what? I also will spend the time and money to go seek. And not for those areas cuz this old dog's not learning some new tricks. And I do wanna get around that 90 degree turn quicker than what I can do by beating my head against the wall sometimes. So I just wanted to make that statement because I hear it all the time from people. So, um, the best way to take a look and maybe research us is that there's a YouTube channels called Charles Castor. It's K a s t o R, so it's like castor oil with a K and an O, not a C. All right, so it's k a s t o r, Charles Castor, and then there's a website I have that's called charles castor fitness.com. It's all one word, and there's a, uh, there's a link on there if you wanna book a call. Um, and if you want to do that, great, we can give you a, find out what your goals are, give you a little bit more in detail about what we do to mix to see if it resonates with you, and then we could book a longer call if that's something you wanna do. So that would be the best way to reach out to us, Greg. And, uh, thank you for having us on here. Appreciate your transparency. Appreciate you as a client. My question is, you know, What does your wife think? What does Pam think after 40 years of what you've done? What does she think? Well, she's also lost 20 pounds. She's been, she's been right there with me all the way around my 31 year old son who loves to work out. He, uh, saw my before and after pictures and he's like, he sent me a, he sent me a text and he said, I can't have my, I can't, I can't have my old man looking better than me. He said, I'm going down to 12% body fat. And I, and my response back was, I'll you everybody, you just said, what you just said is the reason for the program. We just talked about being a fitness patriarch. Nobody cares what's coming outta your mouth, man. They're looking at what you're doing, what your actions are. So not only are you a financial patriarch, but the fitness aspect is so cool and we, we hear all the time that spouses, uh, follow the lead of their husband and they never pay me a damn dime. They're always gone and, you know, and they get a result, which is the intent of the program, so that you can help to eradicate the issues and actually have clear thinking about what true fitness is for your family and the next generations and the next generations. That's the bigger picture here. So I, I just thank you for saying yes, Greg. It's been a pleasure, uh, getting to know you and happy you as a client. We appreciate you. Yeah, well thank you guys too. And Matt, thank you buddy. It's been, uh, it's been great and I'm looking forward to you helping me with that. The next phase and the goals that we've got set up that we'll make that happen also. And, and Chuck, to answer your specific question, my wife has seen the picture of what I want to look like. And so when I, when I tell her what my new measurements were, I tell her my weight is, she's just like, okay, keep going, keep going. All right. Thank you guys. I appreciate you being here. And, uh, To your health and to your continued success, both of you. Hey Craig, can I say thank you very much? Can I say one more thing just, and I just wanna thank Matt for what he does, cuz Matt May, there's divine appointments in our life sometimes, and I gotta say that that was a divine appointment he and I had many years ago and not so much for Matt. Matt talks about what you know, his result was and that he's gonna be around longer and that he is got a mental age of 12. But I, as far as that goes, it's been such a blessing and if you looked at all of the orchestration of what had to happen for Matt to be in place to run the entire coaching department, I just want to thank him because, um, it was a, it was a blessing. And man, I love your brother and I just wanted to say that. Thank you and I, I, uh, I appreciate that. Love you too. And Craig, I have come to know and love you as well and I think that it's, it's, it's awesome when you get to work with people that you just deeply care for. And, uh, I, you know, what a blessing it has been for me to get to do what I do. And there's one thing that drives me. You talked about your dad. I watched my dad put on weight, put on weight, put on weight, put on weight. He finally got type two diabetes. He finally wound up getting a sore and got septic and it killed him. And the thing that still haunts me to this day is I couldn't help him. And I known then what I know now. I very well could have saved his life. I just took my 90 year old mother to lunch on Sunday. And she's in the best shape of her life and I've known then what I know now. I quite possibly could have saved his life. I'm driven to do this because I wanna make changes in people's lives and, and their legacy they leave behind. So I appreciate the opportunity, Chuck, but uh, I appreciate this time as well, Craig. Thank you very much. You bet. Well, thanks again guys. And uh, we'll just keep, keep on keeping on. So for those of you listening in, I hope you get off your butt and you go to the charles caster fitness.com book, the dang call. Um, six months from now you'll be a new you and you'll feel fantastic. It'll be great stuff. All right, that's it for till next time and I'll have no idea what we're doing next week, but uh, we'll bring on some more great info to you. We'll get back to money before too long. But man, this stuff matters too. Take care. God bless.